Piper PA-38 'Tomahawk'
Examples of this type may be found at
PA-38 on display
Mid-Atlantic Air Museum
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Recent comments by our visitors
| Keef Mick|
| That garbage about having to retrim it constantly is ass smelling blow hole of hoo hah.
It's a super stable plane and flies like a bag of pillows.
03/23/2013 @ 18:10 [ref: 67678]
| Rich Right|
| "Dick Tossa" said:
this plane sucks it has no gps its also been recalled ////
Yep he is quite the Dick and twice the Tossa. Very informed person there.
Yeah, it's impossible to put a gps onboard a Thawk. Something to do with the tropopause and magnetic dip.
And they were all recalled. HAHAHA. I better take mine to the recalling place and tell my friends to take theirs there too. And take the GPS's out because these planes have no gps's and they are recalled. The igganintz is blinding.
03/23/2013 @ 18:06 [ref: 67677]
| John Wardwell|
| Had a ball learning to fly with this plane. Very twitchy. |
06/17/2008 @ 07:53 [ref: 21536]
| If you need a gps to fly...then YOU suck and not the a/C! |
08/12/2006 @ 02:55 [ref: 13866]
| dick tosa|
| this plane sucks it has no gps its also been recalled |
08/26/2004 @ 12:38 [ref: 8160]
| Charles Rousseau|
| The Hawk is a very good flight training plane. Its a bit unstable and requires continuous pilot inputs in order to maintain the desired flight path.
On the apron its well accessible and the externals are easily executed. The low wing makes it easy to check fuel contents and refuel it. The T-tail makes it look jet-alike, but aggravates stabilizer inspection as one can barely reach this control surface.
The cockpit is very large and offers room to the tallest of pilots. Visibility is near-perfect. While taxying, the plane is a bit sensitive to pedal inputs as the steering nose wheel is rather high geared.
For a small 2-seater, the plane has high pattern speeds.
Take-off is straightforward with lift-off at 65 kt for a best climb at 70. Although the max rate-of-climb is stated as 700 fpm (sea-level, ISA, MTOW), I frequently get 1,400 in our club plane when flying solo on half tanks. Not bad for 112 hp!
In the cruise its not that fast at 95 kias / 2350 rpm. Trimming is a bit of a chore as it uses a spring trim and is rather sluggish. You just keep turning the wheel using minor inputs. Its difficult to get it perfectly trimmed out. However, precise trimming is mandatory since longitudinal stability is indifferent. Thats why its such a good trainer. The trainee is forced to monitor the plane all time rather than drive it. This is one plane that needs continuous attention!
The integrated left-side arm rest is perfectly suited for me to place my left elbow while fiddling the yoke. Very comfortable as well as enabling the pilot to make precision control inputs!
Downwind 80 kt (2150 rpm), 1 notch flaps parking-brake lever manually engages flaps). The pattern is easily checked visually due to the unobstructed view. Base 75 kt, full flaps, no retrimming necessary.
Final 70 kt. Pretty fast! The student is teached to keep the nose at a constant attitude below the horizon in order to stay with the plane. Treshold speed of 65-70 kt is recommended, although I feel the use of 60 kt could significantly reduce the rather long float.
Due to the ground effect the plane is very forgiving, it never ever let me drop out of the sky from 4 feet high but always put me gently back to earth.
Thats it. For 20,000 bucks you get a (used) trainer that delivers pilots which are taught to use precision control inputs!
03/22/2002 @ 23:49 [ref: 4566]
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